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Layer transform vs clip transform

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:44
by Hypnotist
why clip transform changes layer size? What is point of having layer transform tools if those are not independent from the clip transform? This is not working logically. Affects both Arena and Avenue.

Re: Layer transform vs clip transform

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:33
by Hypnotist
I made lil video to help you understand what I mean


Re: Layer transform vs clip transform

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 13:51
by yochee
use the FRParamerters plugin on clips/layers. it is independent from the native clip transformation and way better!

Re: Layer transform vs clip transform

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 14:55
by Hypnotist
yochee wrote:use the FRParamerters plugin on clips/layers. it is independent from the native clip transformation and way better!
I don't want to use plugins for basic functionality

Re: Layer transform vs clip transform

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:02
by bildwerk
we also noticed the same bug last weekend....

Re: Layer transform vs clip transform

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 16:00
by drazkers
Just add the mask after you've sized all your clips. I've actually found it added some functionality with mapping effects. I assumed that was the system they intended, but maybe it is a bug.

Re: Layer transform vs clip transform

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 19:22
by Hypnotist
drazkers wrote:Just add the mask after you've sized all your clips. I've actually found it added some functionality with mapping effects. I assumed that was the system they intended, but maybe it is a bug.
this is not only about the mask. it is about the layer also. I see no reason for two controls if those do exact same thing...

Re: Layer transform vs clip transform

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 00:29
by Joris
The way Resolume works is that the layer controls are sort of a shortcut for the clip controls.

Everything you set up in a layer will affect all clips in it. Using the layer controls is probably the way you want to run most of your shows (if you work with more than two clips).

Sometimes there is a particular clip that needs to be finetuned, and then you can use the clip controls. All transformations will be merged with the layer controls and then rendered in one pass.

The idea is that you for instance scale down all your clips to 50% on the layer, and then have one clip that requires it scaled up to 200% on the clip. This particular clip will then render at its normal resolution, without loss of quality.

For more info on masking and transforms, I suggest checking out the masking chapter of the manual, particularly the paragraph on the render order: http://resolume.com/manual/en/r4/masks#render_order

Re: Layer transform vs clip transform

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 08:00
by Hypnotist
goto10 wrote:The way Resolume works is that the layer controls are sort of a shortcut for the clip controls.

Everything you set up in a layer will affect all clips in it. Using the layer controls is probably the way you want to run most of your shows (if you work with more than two clips).

Sometimes there is a particular clip that needs to be finetuned, and then you can use the clip controls. All transformations will be merged with the layer controls and then rendered in one pass.

The idea is that you for instance scale down all your clips to 50% on the layer, and then have one clip that requires it scaled up to 200% on the clip. This particular clip will then render at its normal resolution, without loss of quality.

For more info on masking and transforms, I suggest checking out the masking chapter of the manual, particularly the paragraph on the render order: http://resolume.com/manual/en/r4/masks#render_order
Ah! Solution was quite easy!