triggering effect presets via midi

[danklim]

Hey, i'm trying to trigger effect presets via midi. I've made some presets on effects (accessible by clicking the P button on the effect), and thought I remembered seeing a tutorial where somebody assigned these presets midi commands to quickly switch to different presets. However, I can't figure out how to assign midi to these effect presets.

Can I do this? If so, how?

Or must i use a different way to assign midi to effect presets? If so, whats the best way(s)? Just by having a different clip/layer for every effect preset? Or effects clips or something else?

Thanks!

[Arvol]

Give this a shot.

https://resolume.com/support/en/midi-sh ... cut-groups

[danklim]

Thank you. I just read all of that and it looks like what i'm talking about but i don't understand how to use the shortcut groups to apply midi mapping to the video effect preset. Can you please explain how to actually apply the midi mapping to the preset effect? For example, I want to apply a midi button to jump to a preset crop effect. How do i do this?

[Arvol]

Hi Zoltán,
Is this something that was a feature at one time? If not could we add this request to the feature bucket list?

Thanks

[Joris]

I'm a really big fan of this idea actually. I lobbied to make it part of the 6 release. People who know more about programming than me were worried it's too heavy on the render engine to quickly change settings like that. So the idea was axed because of potential instability.

There is something to be said that it might not be the most user-friendly and clear way of switching looks. As a user, you go down a rabbit hole of shortcuts that are linked to items which potentially no longer exist but are hidden in a dropdown. We have some ideas on how you could get similar behavior without sacrificing clarity and intuitiveness.

[Arvol]

I'm a really big fan of this idea actually. I lobbied to make it part of the 6 release. People who know more about programming than me were worried it's too heavy on the render engine to quickly change settings like that. So the idea was axed because of potential instability.

There is something to be said that it might not be the most user-friendly and clear way of switching looks. As a user, you go down a rabbit hole of shortcuts that are linked to items which potentially no longer exist but are hidden in a dropdown. We have some ideas on how you could get similar behavior without sacrificing clarity and intuitiveness.

Right on

Thanks for the reply and insight Joris. Much appreciated.

[danklim]

Ok, im a bit confused. So this is not possible in the current version of Resolume Avenue?


If not, i'm thinking that the best alternative is to make different clips/layers with the different 'presets' for effects.... for example, putting the same webcam source in several clip/layers slots and applying a different crop effect in each one. That way i can midi map the clip or layer easily. Or is there a better way?

[im_borealis]

If not, i'm thinking that the best alternative is to make different clips/layers with the different 'presets' for effects.... for example, putting the same webcam source in several clip/layers slots and applying a different crop effect in each one. That way i can midi map the clip or layer easily. Or is there a better way?

That's the best way I can think of. However, if you want to keep it in one clip, apply all the crop presets on top of each other, each in its own Crop effect, then put a middle man between your MIDI controller and Resolume (I myself like OSCulator). Make different events to trigger the crop presets. Each event should use OSC to unblock the desired Crop effect, and block all the others.

[danklim]

If not, i'm thinking that the best alternative is to make different clips/layers with the different 'presets' for effects.... for example, putting the same webcam source in several clip/layers slots and applying a different crop effect in each one. That way i can midi map the clip or layer easily. Or is there a better way?

That's the best way I can think of. However, if you want to keep it in one clip, apply all the crop presets on top of each other, each in its own Crop effect, then put a middle man between your MIDI controller and Resolume (I myself like OSCulator). Make different events to trigger the crop presets. Each event should use OSC to unblock the desired Crop effect, and block all the others.

hmm interesting, thanks. How would you make each the each event "unblock the desired Crop effect, and block all the others"? 


I see that i can midi map the bypass button, but it seems to be a toggle on/off (rather than 2 seperate buttons for on and off). It seems like that would be difficult/confusing/maybe not possible to make the events trigger just the correct crop effects to be triggered on and block all of the others, no?


I've never used OSC before but am comfortable with midi, is this just a unique functionality of OSC or can this be done with midi?

[drazkers]

If not, i'm thinking that the best alternative is to make different clips/layers with the different 'presets' for effects.... for example, putting the same webcam source in several clip/layers slots and applying a different crop effect in each one. That way i can midi map the clip or layer easily. Or is there a better way?

That's the best way I can think of. However, if you want to keep it in one clip, apply all the crop presets on top of each other, each in its own Crop effect, then put a middle man between your MIDI controller and Resolume (I myself like OSCulator). Make different events to trigger the crop presets. Each event should use OSC to unblock the desired Crop effect, and block all the others.

hmm interesting, thanks. How would you make each the each event "unblock the desired Crop effect, and block all the others"? 


I see that i can midi map the bypass button, but it seems to be a toggle on/off (rather than 2 seperate buttons for on and off). It seems like that would be difficult/confusing/maybe not possible to make the events trigger just the correct crop effects to be triggered on and block all of the others, no?


I've never used OSC before but am comfortable with midi, is this just a unique functionality of OSC or can this be done with midi?

I did this in bomes when I wanted this effect. I had one button that triggered all the opacities and then a set of selector midi buttons toggling bypass to select which one actually was enabled.