Multiple camera setup in a dark venue.

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Multiple camera setup in a dark venue.

Post by PSneep » Mon May 09, 2011 15:26

Hiya! First post after lurking around for a while, here goes!

I'm planning on installing two camera's in a venue so a VJ can put either the crowd or the band in the spotlight on a big screen, using Resolume for some visual effects. However, it seems quite difficult to get a clear view of the crowd when it's dark and I'm trying to find out what camera's to use. Budget is kinda low, so I've set my sights on keeping it simple and try to find a few camera's which I can hook up directly to a MacBook 15". For now, this option has caught my eye:

2x Logitech C910 HD webcam. http://www.logitech.com/nl-nl/webcam-co ... vices/6816
These use USB ports, so they keep things simple and low budget. From what I've seen on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vWzTCCeJGM it works decent in the dark and the auto-zoom function could be helpful. On the downside, getting enough range on the USB cables might be a problem and well.. a webcam is a webcam. I don't expect much depth unless someone can prove otherwise.

So could someone help me out a little? Any tips, suggestions, solutions and options would be very welcome!

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Re: Multiple camera setup in a dark venue.

Post by yugpmoc » Tue May 24, 2011 18:19

I'm looking for the same. I'm seriously considering taking a chance on the x10 sentinal. It has remote pan, tilt, and an optical zoom. It's capable of wireless and wired video, but only outputs NTSC. The non x10 reviews rate it mediocre, but hopefully when the stage spots are on it will be sensitive enough.

Anyone else have a solution? I've got a Canon AX10 on backorder, but it seems indefinitely delayed and it's freaking expensive too.

I just got the Logitech 910, so far it's worked once, and it's sensitivity was not satisfying at all, except that the input did stretch nicely across the three screen setup I was running. My iPhone 3gs shot better video that night. It may be a configuration / setup thing. I was pointing back at the stage and it did capture the screens well. The crowd however was just a black blur. Perhaps a higher location pointing down at the dance floor without any bright stuff in frame would help. I'll try that next.

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Re: Multiple camera setup in a dark venue.

Post by gsbe » Tue Nov 22, 2011 03:54

I currently have a number of Logitech webcams plugged into a Macbook Pro through a powered USB hub. Resolume 4 is only able to access one camera per session. Although multiple sources will appear as inputs and can be dragged to unique clip slots the program seems to activate only one.

Any help with that? Work arounds? How do you get multiple live cameras into Resolume?

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Re: Multiple camera setup in a dark venue.

Post by Stickygreen » Tue Nov 22, 2011 08:12

forget the web cam's there for kids, use security camera's. A good PTZ camera in a dome right on the front of the stage, especially if you can pan a full 360 will get you your DJ ego shot, and your raver kiddie front row shot.

these can be had in full HD, but if budget is a concern then stick with SD.

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Re: Multiple camera setup in a dark venue.

Post by gsbe » Tue Nov 22, 2011 15:53

Ok, that's fine. I have a few remotely controllable cameras that output SD and S-video.

BUT my main question is how can I get multiple live camera inputs into Resolume 4? What hardware works with multiple inputs?
Stickygreen wrote:forget the web cam's there for kids, use security camera's. A good PTZ camera in a dome right on the front of the stage, especially if you can pan a full 360 will get you your DJ ego shot, and your raver kiddie front row shot.

these can be had in full HD, but if budget is a concern then stick with SD.

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Re: Multiple camera setup in a dark venue.

Post by djpnur » Thu Dec 01, 2011 21:12

gsbe wrote:I currently have a number of Logitech webcams plugged into a Macbook Pro through a powered USB hub. Resolume 4 is only able to access one camera per session. Although multiple sources will appear as inputs and can be dragged to unique clip slots the program seems to activate only one.

Any help with that? Work arounds? How do you get multiple live cameras into Resolume?

I would also like to see if someone has an answer for this??

Need Resolume to recognize 2nd camera :)

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Re: Multiple camera setup in a dark venue.

Post by the_psychologist » Fri Jan 06, 2012 19:40

any progress on this front? cheerz

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Re: Multiple camera setup in a dark venue.

Post by Joris » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:48

If you want to work with multiple camera inputs reliably, we recommend using a desktop computer with two or more BlackMagic Intensity Pro cards installed.

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Re: Multiple camera setup in a dark venue.

Post by Lupavision » Mon Oct 01, 2012 00:02

Because a MacBook Pro can only accept 1 USB camera at a time (limited bandwidth through USB ports), I am using a firewire device (old mini dv cam) as well as a USB camera. My usb camera is a PS3 eye which is excellent in low light.
I'm also looking into using wireless cameras. Anyone have any good advice on this?

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Re: Multiple camera setup in a dark venue.

Post by gsbe » Mon Oct 01, 2012 04:05

Thanks for posting your setup. It's nice to know of camera options that work with osx and resolume. I wasn't familiar with the PS3 Eye but that looks like a pretty good deal. How does it do with long distances, say for example if you're 30-40' away from the stage? Do you have any examples this little USB camera in action with resolume?

I don't have any experience with wireless cameras but would def be interested in that info, too. I've used the Firewire out of an old Canon XL1 into resolume 4 successfully. I'd love to be able to get more signals in - ultimately I'd love to have multiple iOS devices with cameras transmitting wirelessly to an installation of resolume - is this possible?
Lupavision wrote:Because a MacBook Pro can only accept 1 USB camera at a time (limited bandwidth through USB ports), I am using a firewire device (old mini dv cam) as well as a USB camera. My usb camera is a PS3 eye which is excellent in low light.
I'm also looking into using wireless cameras. Anyone have any good advice on this?

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