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Slice setup..

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:13
by B3RN
Hi all,
I have a 10 slice setup over 3 outputs and a heap of LED panels at a club I am VJ'ing at.... Now, I have assigned the DJ logo's layer to display on the front panels of the DJ booth... Is it normal for the logo to also come up over the whole composition when the fader is raised on that layer? Is there a method to remove the logo layer from displaying over the whole compositoin and only on the panels at the front....

Thanks For your help...
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Thats the setup :)

Re: Slice setup..

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:59
by pfelberg
I worked with a similar setup this weekend. I have some solutions to what you decribe, but I am pretty sure that Joris will say that we are complicating it too much ; )
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This setup has only one single slice. I din´t even needed one. I did it to better fit images on panels.
Course, in that case, all client´s custom content was ready edited/produced divided as panels.
Consider the compostion and your frame size as the total area of all panels.
So, the lower 3 LCD panels content clip was produced leaving the rest of the frame with no information, but the Alpha Channel applied. Just put that in the top layer. Presto!

You can also do that with 2 slices. You can setup a bigger composition and place your logo content in a clear area. Setup a slice to that area (logo area) and then transform it, move it to the desired location/screen.

But my guess is that Joris would just load the logo content in a layer and adjust that layer settings to move it to the proper size and position. And put it on top of everything. ; )

Re: Slice setup..

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 17:42
by Oaktown
You can also put the logo on the first layer, add a 2nd layer with a black slide at 100% over it (but you probably don't need that if you always have content on top) and use the advanced output to select layer 1 in the input source for the slice(s) that have the logo.

Re: Slice setup..

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 09:36
by He2neg
If you dont need the Crossover function then you can easy use this to seperate it.


Layer 1 --> Slice 1 ---> "A" [ in Advanced Output dissable the layer occ.]

Rest --->Slices.2..3.4.. --- > "B"

Crossover pushed over to B ....


Not 100% sure if this is the right way round but there is a solution in this Area :lol:

Re: Slice setup..

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:23
by Joris
Set the routed layer to Crossfader channel A, set the Crossfader itself to B. That's all you need to for He2neg's technique to work. Downside is you lose the use of your crossfader.

Or use the Clip properties to position the logo in the lower part of the comp and don't use Layer to Slice routing at all. That would be the way I'd do it. Added advantage is that your output preview actually looks like your output.

Or render everything before hand so you don't have to position anything at all. That's the way Pfelberg approaches this. It's very precise, but you need to render everything before hand.

Or use another layer to black out the layer you don't want to see. That's what Oaktown likes to do. Of course you add another extra layer to the render stack, but it's a method that scales very well to more complicated setups.

Or disable the Layer Opacity in the slice, and pull down the opacity of the layer. This is probably the least flexible method because you lose the use of your opacity fader. You can still use the Bypass to turn it on and off though.

There's no right and wrong way, just a lot of different ways to approach it. In the end it comes down to what works best for you, really.

Re: Slice setup..

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 15:18
by Oaktown
Or use another layer to black out the layer you don't want to see. That's what Oaktown likes to do. Of course you add another extra layer to the render stack, but it's a method that scales very well to more complicated setups.
You can always bypass the blackout layer if the bottom layer of your composition (which would be #2 now) is at 100% opacity and you always have media loaded in it.