Hi,
I have next friday an little gig for 80's music. And the question was how about showing videoclips from that time. Dance classics clips etc.
But how does the play rights see that kind? Are they bundled with the BUMA/STEMRA or sort thing?
Or is it possible to play fragments of the clips and for how long is tollerated?
Hopefully someone had the same problems.
Video Clip Rights
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Jim_
it seems to be a burning issue at the moment (and has been for a while)
offically you shouldn't do it, as its breaking copyright, but unofficially you'll get away with it as the chances that the owner of the copyright sees, and then decides to prosecute is very small.
what i'd suggest though is that you don't just show the raw footage, but effect it or change it so that the footage then becomes different..........
however, i'd be interested in other peoples thoughts.
have you also looked on vjforums, as there's always a debate of some sort along these lines
offically you shouldn't do it, as its breaking copyright, but unofficially you'll get away with it as the chances that the owner of the copyright sees, and then decides to prosecute is very small.
what i'd suggest though is that you don't just show the raw footage, but effect it or change it so that the footage then becomes different..........
however, i'd be interested in other peoples thoughts.
have you also looked on vjforums, as there's always a debate of some sort along these lines
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master dk_
it's not assumed that you're breaking copyright. there is the legal category of "fair use" which allows for satire/parody, educational use, and the display or use of parts of works (i'm sure there's more but i'm not a legal expert on this).
using short fragments of 80's videos shouldn't even pose a legal problem compared with performing complete works (the whole video), although the duration of the sample is hotly contested (the music industry has fought over this).
another thing to consider is the legal jurisdiction of the MPAA and RIAA over foreign countries. u.s. copyright law only applies to the u.s., so display of works copyrighted in the u.s. in other countries can only be enforced based on international treaties.
finally, it's my opinion that the digital medium has rendered the recorded movie and music business model obsolete, and that they can all go #$%#$^ themselves! the future starts now, so let's create it.
using short fragments of 80's videos shouldn't even pose a legal problem compared with performing complete works (the whole video), although the duration of the sample is hotly contested (the music industry has fought over this).
another thing to consider is the legal jurisdiction of the MPAA and RIAA over foreign countries. u.s. copyright law only applies to the u.s., so display of works copyrighted in the u.s. in other countries can only be enforced based on international treaties.
finally, it's my opinion that the digital medium has rendered the recorded movie and music business model obsolete, and that they can all go #$%#$^ themselves! the future starts now, so let's create it.
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DinkyToys_
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ta_
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ta_
part II (sorry, there is some more):
the point is: a dj playing samples of other people is considered as a quite natural thing (and it is!). but a vj showing parts of someone else's footage is always accused of "stealing other people's work". and this is just not correct! a vj doesn't claim his rights on the footage he shows. his work is a live event.
anyway it is just not possible to make all the samples by yourself or to ask everyone for permition of using his stuff.
the point is: a dj playing samples of other people is considered as a quite natural thing (and it is!). but a vj showing parts of someone else's footage is always accused of "stealing other people's work". and this is just not correct! a vj doesn't claim his rights on the footage he shows. his work is a live event.
anyway it is just not possible to make all the samples by yourself or to ask everyone for permition of using his stuff.
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DinkyToys_
The most dj's play only vinyl.
When the make music then they can't use samples from others. It has to be "cleared". Or they have to put some filters on it so it doesn't like the original anymore.
But why can i play in public records when i payed the BUMA/STEMRA? Is there also something for videotapes/dvd's?
When the make music then they can't use samples from others. It has to be "cleared". Or they have to put some filters on it so it doesn't like the original anymore.
But why can i play in public records when i payed the BUMA/STEMRA? Is there also something for videotapes/dvd's?
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master dk_
i forgot to mention that 99% of what i show is my own original work that i shot and edited myself. i've just started making the switch away from mixing DVD's to resolume, and it's very inspiring.
i know it's a high standard to live up to, but it's very rewarding when software like this becomes the medium for one's own art. sure, mixing is an artform, but mixing original art is the next level.
also, has anyone ever looked into the law regarding spinning records in public? maybe it's not even legal, because radio stations have to pay the publishing companies fees. hmmm.
i know it's a high standard to live up to, but it's very rewarding when software like this becomes the medium for one's own art. sure, mixing is an artform, but mixing original art is the next level.
also, has anyone ever looked into the law regarding spinning records in public? maybe it's not even legal, because radio stations have to pay the publishing companies fees. hmmm.